tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2514352312859447561.post8742475189025601172..comments2024-01-30T03:30:45.740-05:00Comments on Bad Data, Bad!: Correlation and Causation: the Teen Pregnancy Editionbs kinghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02871717971078952304noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2514352312859447561.post-36762512755003085922012-05-18T17:23:40.230-04:002012-05-18T17:23:40.230-04:00Thanks for stopping by Shaun!
I did think your ...Thanks for stopping by Shaun! <br /><br />I did think your website was fun, and I would not question the soundness of your correlations. However, without the p values, I could question whether they were statistically significant or not....but I won't. Your website has informed me that this line of thinking means I suck the fun out of everything. I don't like sucking fun out of things, the world's too serious as is. <br /><br />In conclusion, I don't often question correlations, only causality....though I do think "Questionable Causality" might have been a pretty good name for a website too. Or a band.bs kinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02871717971078952304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2514352312859447561.post-14754743535230132912012-05-18T15:33:10.985-04:002012-05-18T15:33:10.985-04:00I'm the creator of Correlated and just wanted ...I'm the creator of Correlated and just wanted to thank you for the shout-out.<br /><br />Oh, and also, I wanted to defend the soundness of my correlations. If they were really mere coincidences, as you suggest, don't you think I would have named the site Coincidenced?Shaun Ghttp://wwww.correlated.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2514352312859447561.post-10827598028831142962012-05-18T03:36:23.397-04:002012-05-18T03:36:23.397-04:00"I always think I'm being clever when I f..."I always think I'm being clever when I flip the conventional belief of causality."<br /><br />No. You just enjoy disagreeing with people.<br /><br />As for the underlying causes...I agree they can be tired and retread, but they also give latitude for real thought. Dan encountered some truly tragic teen pregnancy cases this year (like 14 year olds with 1 year old children tragic), and we had a good talk about the role of untreated mental illness in the whole thing. The girl was ragingly bipolar, but her drug addicted (30 year old) mother couldn't help, the grandmother (who was 45) couldn't pull it together enough to intervene, etc. <br /><br />It was noteworthy to me because every kid in his school is poor and almost all are minorities, and the ones with stable parents and few other risk factors still do better regardless of income. That's why the "poverty" panacea bothers me. There's a lot of different ways of being poor.bs kinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02871717971078952304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2514352312859447561.post-9713498338214211712012-05-17T21:17:22.784-04:002012-05-17T21:17:22.784-04:00I always think I'm being clever when I flip th...I always think I'm being clever when I flip the conventional belief of causality.<br /><br />I am always suspicious the same set of "root causes" being trotted out all the time, however. Underlying social problems...I'll bet I can make a guess what that means.<br /><br />Not that those can't be true, or at least partial explainers of the trend. But the probable list of underlying social problems - poverty, bad schools, racism, lack of mobility - were all far worse sixty years ago. In a way, it is supporting Charles Murray's Losing Ground via the back door. If having a child out of wedlock is a girl's best option, we're doing something wrong.Assistant Village Idiothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01978011985085795099noreply@blogger.com